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Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Gwyneth Paltrow talk postpartum depression

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It was Chris Martin who first suspected that his then-wife, Gwyneth Paltrow, was struggling with postpartum depression following the birth of their son, Moses, in 2006.

“With my son, I had it quite badly, and I didn’t realize it,” Paltrow told Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Thursday’s episode of her Goop Podcast. “I just thought I couldn’t get my s*** together, and I was so all over the place emotionally and really disconnected from myself. It was terrible and lonely and awful, awful.”

Eventually, Martin, with whom she also shares 15-year-old daughter, Apple, confronted her about it.

“It was really a lifesaver, one day my ex-husband — my husband at the time — said, ‘I think you might have postpartum depression,’” said Paltrow, who was married to the Coldplay frontman from 2003 to 2016. “And I was like, ’What?’ I was stunned. I just thought it was just coming out of nowhere, but then I just felt myself break open with so much relief, and just to have someone observe and name it, and I was like, s***, I think you’re right.”

Paltrow’s next thought was how to deal with it.

She thought, “‘I better get help and start to deal with this and talk to somebody.’ And so I started doing yoga, and I started doing acupuncture, and I started seeing a therapist, and then it started to pass.”

She founded Goop, a personal wellness website in 2008.

Louis-Dreyfus explained that she struggled with postpartum depression after giving birth to both of her twentysomething sons, Henry and Charlie.

“But nobody was calling it that then,” the Veep star said, “so I just thought, ‘Oh, s***, I’m losing my mind.’”  

She said she somehow “powered through” it the first time.

“I just remember it was terrifying. It really was scary, because there was this feeling like I should not have had children and that is terrifying after you’ve given birth,” Louis-Dreyfus said. “It’s not a good feeling.”

Louis-Dreyfus recalled that she was very emotional.

“I was weeping all the time,” she told Paltrow. “I think you said you were separated from yourself. I didn’t feel like myself. I don’t know how else to say it.”

The postpartum went away on its own in a month that time.

“But then with my second son, I panicked,” Louis-Dreyfus said. “It happened again. I didn’t realize it but all of the sudden I had this feeling like we’d given him the wrong name, and I needed to change his name.”

The Seinfeld star was convinced at the time that Charlie should have been named Ernest.

“I was bawling, and I just didn’t know what was happening. And we’d already f***ed up this child with this name of Charlie, which is probably the most affable, wonderful name in the world,” Louis-Dreyfus said. “And I remember I was actually talking to my sister-in-law and she said, ‘Hey, Julia, I think this is postpartum. I think you should go to the doctor.’”

She took the advice.

“Actually, I went to my gynecologist at the time and he gave me a shot of progesterone or estrogen or something like that, and I was better in 24 hours,” Louis-Dreyfus said.

The U.S. government’s Office on Women’s Health reports that one in nine women experience postpartum depression, and it offers resources on its website.

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What Our Editors Think About Wearing Tights Under Jeans

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An intense debate was sparked in the Who What Wear UK offices after Alexa Chung published an Instagram Story about wearing tights under jeans. Half of the office thought it was a given that you would chuck on the denier 40s as soon as the mercury dropped below 10º Celsius, while the other half hated the idea of adding unnecessary bulk to their already overladen winter outfits.

This division was further confirmed after we posed the question to our Facebook group. Some stated their reliance on tights for the colder months, while others dismissed the layering approach as “uncomfortable.” The issue has become even more pressing over the last few days, as temperatures have plummeted to arctic lows and the commute to work has become a battle against the tundra.

We decided to pitch two editors against each other to conclude, once and for all, whether wearing tights under jeans is a fashion faux pas. So who was right? Message us and tell us your thoughts!

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‘When a kid is born, they don’t come out with a pamphlet’

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Dwyane Wade is reflecting on being a father to an 18-year-old son and why parenthood can be so scary.

Now 38 and the proud dad of 18-year-old son Zaire, Wade told People before the Sunday premiere of his ESPN documentary “D. Wade: Life Unexpected,” that he tried his best to raise good children.

“Now he’s 18 and I’m like, ‘He’s about to go to college’ — I’m even more scared,” the retired NBA legend who is married to actress Gabrielle Union, told the outlet. “When a kid is born, they don’t come out with a pamphlet that’s like, ‘Okay, these are the directions for this kid.’ So you just figure it out and try to help raise someone who’s good and kind, and just characteristics that you want your kids to hopefully have. And that’s in you already.”

Wade added, “You’re afraid because you don’t want to mess up; you don’t want anything to happen to them. But I think, ultimately, we all have it inside of us to help lead someone, whether that’s your kids, godson or goddaughter, niece or nephew, coworker — we all have it in us to lead. It’s no different when you have a kid.”

NBA star Dwyane Wade (R) is about to send his 18-year old son Zaire (L) off to college. (Photo by Issac Baldizon/NBAE via Getty Images)

Now a rising basketball star himself, Zaire hopes to play in the NBA one day, like his father. And Wade says the teen isn’t embarrassed by his famous dad — well, not entirely. “There’s moments where I embarrass him sometimes on purpose,” he told People, “and sometimes just because I’m older and I’m not as cool as I used to be.”

Wade is also father to Kaavia, 15 months, Xavier, 6, and 12-year-old Zaya, who changed pronouns to “she” and “her” after being born as Zion. Wade also serves as guardian of nephew Dahveon, 18.

Recently, during an appearance on Ellen, the athlete shared how he and Union respected Zaya’s decisions. “First of all, me and my wife Gabrielle Union, we are proud — when I say proud, we are proud parents — of a child in the LGBTQ+ community,” Dwyane told Ellen DeGeneres. “And we’re proud allies as well. And we take our roles and our responsibility as parents very seriously.”

Also in February, the athlete also posted an Instagram video in which he praised Zaya for being a “leader.”

Wade recently told Good Morning America that he hesitated to discuss Zaya’s choices in his new project. “I struggled on how much I wanted to talk about it in the doc,” he said. “I actually didn’t talk about it a lot, but I knew if I put it in the doc at all it would be a big conversation. Yes, we understand that our daughter’s 12 years old. We struggled with what people would say about a 12-year-old making a decision about her life, but we also know our child.”

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Hilary Duff Confronts ‘Creep’ Photographer Taking Photos Of Her Kids In Public Park

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Hilary Duff isn’t about to let some strange, random man get away with photographing kids at a soccer game!

On Saturday afternoon, the former Lizzie McGuire star posted a video on her Instagram page showing her confronting a male photographer who was shooting pictures of children playing football in a park. The man, who did not even immediately identify himself as a paparazzi photographer, apparently did not know any of the children, bringing the creep factor up significantly…

Related: Hilary Lived Her Best Life Honeymooning In South Africa With Matthew Koma!

The whole exchange was an interesting — and contentious — one from the very beginning. At one point, the Younger star saw the male photographer shooting pics of children in the park, and assumed him to be a paparazzi photog, as so many often are who follow her around.

But the man never identified himself by name, nor did he tell Duff what organization he was there shooting with or for, interestingly enough. When the actress confirms the man doesn’t know anybody on the team, and appears to be taking pictures without the children’s consent, she really loses it on him, saying at one point in the video (below):

“Who are you here with? Do you know any people on the team? Can you stop taking pictures of the kids please? It’s making me feel really uncomfortable. I’m not asking for your ID. I’m asking you to stop taking pictures of our 7-year-old children if you don’t know anyone that’s here. “I’m asking you human to human, as a mother, if you don’t know anyone here, can you please stop taking pictures of our children playing football this morning … These are 7-year-old children and you don’t have a child here. They’re our children and we would like to protect them.”

Yikes!!!! Talk about letting him have it!!

You can watch the whole entire thing go down on video (below):

Damn! Go IN on that man, Hilary! She’s completely at her wit’s end with photographers and paparazzi members following her around for so long, and for good reason. And it appears now, he’s ready to go to battle for her own children, too!

Related: Hilary Shares More Pics From Her Blissful Backyard Wedding!

What do U think about this controversy, Perezcious readers?! Are you on Hilary’s side with this one in confronting a photographer at the park like this? Or did she do something to go too far and jump into the fray a little too aggressively in this case?? Sound OFF with your take on everything in the comments (below)!!!

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